[He shakes his head. Normally he'd be a little huffy or launch into an explanation of things, but for now...this is a little more pressing.]

Not sure we'd believe it either if we hadn't seen them with our own eyes. And technology and sorcery can be mixed together by guys who know what they're doing like the dwarves. [Or Hiro, in some cases, with some things. It's a stretch, but he's trying.]

Normally they override each other, but the dwarves know a specific kind of magic to make this possible. That's the problem.